Sick of trading hours for dollars in your consulting business? You're not alone. Join Jon Matzner and Dan Kirner as they rip apart the traditional consulting model and show you exactly how to build real leverage. Through real-world examples and zero-fluff strategies, they reveal how to spot golden opportunities in your market, transform your services into products, and scale without losing your mind. Whether you're just starting out or looking to break through your current ceiling, this episode is your blueprint for consulting that actually scales.

Timestamps: (00:00) Welcome and Dan's Background (00:32) From Time-for-Money to Scalable Solutions (02:17) Breaking Down Real Leverage in Consulting (03:43) The Productization Blueprint (07:05) Building Systems That Scale (11:19) How to Find Your Perfect Market Fit (21:34) Solving the Sales Puzzle Without Complex Funnels (25:28) Combining Skills for Maximum Impact (33:55) Key Takeaways and Connect with Dan

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Ever wonder why your inbox feels like a never-ending game of whack-a-mole? Join Peter Lohmann and Jon Matzner as they expose why email overload is actually a symptom of deeper business issues. Through candid conversation and real-world examples, they demolish common productivity myths and reveal their battle-tested system for taking control of your communication. From the controversial truth about quick response times to the game-changing difference between tasks and projects, this episode delivers actionable insights that will transform how you work. Whether you're drowning in notifications or just tired of email running your life, this is the wake-up call you need.

TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Introduction and The Email Crisis (04:00) Why Email Problems Are Really Leadership Problems (6:21) (10:00) Breaking Free from the "Quick Response" Trap (15:00) The Right Way to Use Tools Like Slack and Email (22:00) Project Management: The Missing Piece (30:00) From Chaos to Control: Building Your System (38:00) The Power of Task Capture and Weekly Reviews (45:00) Creating Action-Based Project Plans (53:00) Future of Work: Bridging Physical and Digital

Stay connected for more insights and strategies by following Jon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@MatznerJon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on X and at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lazyleverage.beehiiv.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Peter: ⁠@pslohmann⁠ on X and at peterlohmann.com

Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann break down the art and science of 'architecting the way work gets done' - a crucial skill for any business owner looking to scale. From handling employee resistance to identifying bottlenecks, learn how to design work systems that unlock growth while keeping your best people happy. Plus: sneaky tips for spotting AI responses in hiring, and game-changing iPhone features you didn't know existed.

Timestamps

(00:00) Intro and casual catch-up

(04:15) Understanding "architecting the way work gets done"

(11:40) The Henry Ford approach to work design

(15:45) Why employees resist systems (and how to handle it)

(21:43) Identifying and working with business bottlenecks

(26:50) The Korean spa button: A lesson in smart work design

(27:58) Using accountability charts effectively

(30:10) Tech tips: Gmail link copying and iPhone call recording

(32:30) Clever hiring tip: Catching AI responses in job applications

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Jon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@MatznerJon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on X and at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lazyleverage.beehiiv.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Peter: ⁠@pslohmann⁠ on X and at peterlohmann.com