• Learning from the Swiss Apprenticeship Model
    Mar 11 2025

    The U.S. has a lot to learn when it comes to systematizing apprenticeship. Thankfully, there are successful international models, like Switzerland’s, that we can study. Katie Caves, the Director at Switzerland’s Center on the Economics and Management of Education and Training Systems, joins the podcast to discuss the Swiss model and what can be gleaned from it. They discuss its permeability between academic and vocational tracks, proving its value to employers, the prestige of Swiss apprenticeships, and the principles that hold across borders. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group.


    Publications Mentioned: Return on investment of apprenticeship systems for enterprises: Evidence from cost-benefit analyses by Samuel Muehlemann & Stefan C Wolter


    Time Topic3:35 Swiss Apprenticeship 1016:56Path Selection and Funding13:46The Status of Apprenticeship in Switzerland18:58Borrowing Across Borders25:15The ROI to Employers29:47Evaluating Indiana’s Apprenticeship Model33:45Imbuing Prestige in American Apprenticeship38:49Striking the Balance43:01 The Influence of Accountability
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    47 Min.
  • Building an AI-Ready College
    Mar 4 2025

    AI is evolving at a rapid rate, and its implications for higher ed are changing in lock step. So, Michael and Jeff dove back into the topic at the Google Public Sector GenAI Live & Labs Conference with a panel of experts: Ann Krischner of CUNY and ASU, Pace University’s Marvin Krislov, and Google’s Chris Hein. They discussed the necessity of an institutional AI strategy, the tech’s implications for the future of work, and why university partnerships will be essential to equity in the age of AI. This episode is made with support from Google.

    0:00 - Intro

    1:40 - Campus-Wide AI Strategy

    6:02 - Skills in the Age of AI

    9:52 - AI Policy and Faculty Training

    11:49 - The Dislocation of Entry Level Jobs

    15:33 - Teaching AI

    18:39 - Mounting the Liberal Arts Comeback

    21:25 - The Future of Academic Research

    24:37 - Building Access through Partnership

    31:12 - Questionable Assumptions


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    37 Min.
  • A Midwest Merger: How Two Ohio Colleges Are Coming Together
    Feb 25 2025

    Mergers aren’t easy. They demand careful analysis, difficult decisions, and tricky stakeholder management. But they are becoming increasingly necessary as dropping enrollments make going it alone less viable for more and more institutions. So, Michael and Jeff sat down with the presidents of two colleges in Ohio that are in the process of merging and the consultant that helped guide them through it to learn more about how to do so successfully. They discuss how to find the right partner, navigate federal approval processes, and manage the emotional elements. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group and The Gates Foundation.

    Links We Mention

    Strategic Mergers in Higher Education by Ricardo Azziz et al.

    Chapters

    0:00 - Introduction

    01:32 - Future U’s Coverage of M&A

    03:26 - A Merger in Northwest Ohio

    04:44 - Pursuing a Partnership

    08:29 - Finding the Right Fit

    10:45 - The Challenging Federal Approval Process

    16:21 - Managing Stakeholder Communications

    22:09 - Lessons Learned

    27:04 - The Leadership Characteristics Required

    30:46 - The Timeline of Mergers

    39:03 - Managing the Emotional Element

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    43 Min.
  • Accepted without Applying: The Growth of Direct Admissions
    Feb 12 2025

    This year, thousands of students will be accepted to colleges without ever submitting a formal application. That’s because more and more schools are automatically accepting students who meet preset performance thresholds through direct admissions programs. To learn more about this growing trend, Michael and Jeff welcome Luke Skurman who is CEO of Niche.com, one of the nation’s largest direct admissions platforms. They discuss the benefits and risks of this innovation and dig into how it changes the dynamics between schools and students. Michael and Jeff then envision the variety of changes required in the college admissions process. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Group, the Gates Foundation, and the American College of Education.

    Chapters

    0:00 Intro
    02:26 - The Backstory on Direct Admissions
    06:35 - How Niche Direct Admissions Works
    09:09 - The Benefit to Students and Institutions
    11:29 - Another Application Count Booster?
    14:25 - Obstacle or Litmus Test?
    15:56 - Changing Dynamics
    19:40 - The Competitive Landscape
    20:41 - What’s Next?
    25:38 - The Three Parts of Admissions
    30:23 - Weighing the Pros and Cons of Direct Admissions
    36:26 - Reimagining the College Admissions Process

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    41 Min.
  • The Lost Boys of Higher Ed
    Feb 4 2025

    Women have outnumbered men on college campuses for decades, but the divergence in postsecondary success has widened in recent years, and it is both a cause and symptom of the struggles of the modern man. Richard Reeves, author of Of Boys and Men joins the podcast to discuss the drivers of these challenges, promising interventions, and whether we should care about the plight of men in a world where they continue to wield power. This episode is made with support from the Gates Foundation, Ascendium Education Group, and The American College of Education.

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    Of Boys and Men:Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What To Do About It
    by Richard Reeves

    https://www.menincollege.com

    American Institute for Boys and Men

    Chapters

    00:00 - Intro
    04:15 - Where We Are (and Aren't) Seeing the Gender Divide
    05:56 - Designing College with The Modern Young Man in Mind
    12:28 - Drivers of the Higher Ed Gender Divide
    16:30 - The Effects of the Pandemic
    19:41 - The Larger Significance of the Problem
    26:50 - Opting Out of Adulting
    31:52 - Masculinity and Majors
    34:22 - K12 Solutions: Nobody's Fault, Everyone's Responsibility
    37:32 - What Higher Ed Can Do
    41:47 - International Parallels
    44:38 - Rebalancing Education Systems
    49:06 - Zero-Sum Game or Growing the Pie?

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    51 Min.
  • A New Era for Higher Ed?
    Jan 28 2025

    At the turn of the new year, Jeff and Michael dive into the predictions and trends set to shape the landscape of higher education in 2025. They discuss how this may be a year of reckoning for colleges and where changes will be required to make long-needed improvements. They dig in on infrastructure adjustments, reimagined degree programs, and what appears to be a new ultimatum for many struggling colleges: partner or perish. This episode made with support from The American College of Education, The Gates Foundation, and Ascendium Education Group.

    Links We Share

    “Which Colleges Always Lose Money?” by Robert Kelchen

    “Where the Grass Is Greener” by Robert Shaw, Harvard Magazine

    Chapters

    0:00 - Intro
    01:49 - A Year of Reckoning for Higher Ed
    09:57 - The Changes Needed
    16:51 - Quick Hits: Athletes as Employees, Hostile Competition, and More
    26:37 - Expanding Research Outside of Academia
    30:58 - Shortening Degree Programs

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    37 Min.
  • Making "Job Moves"
    Jan 14 2025

    On this episode, Jeff sits down with one of the authors of Job Moves: 9 Steps To Making Progress in Your Career, Future U.’s very own Michael B. Horn. The two discuss the lessons that the book, which offers research-based guidance to individuals searching for new work, holds for students and the colleges that serve them. They then dive into discussing a topic they each get a lot of questions about: what it’s like to write a book. This episode made with support from The American College of Education, The Gates Foundation, and Ascendium Education Group.

    Links We Mention

    Job Moves: 9 Steps for Making Progress in Your Career

    Career and Technical Education for All by Michael B. Horn and Daniel Curtis, Education Next

    Chapters

    0:00 - Intro
    02:40 - Job Moves in a Nutshell
    04:02 - How Job Moves Applies to Colleges
    07:17 - Balancing Skills Development Against Credentials
    09:26 - Helping Students Make More Informed Choices
    16:16 - Next Steps for Higher Ed
    22:43 - Michael's Process for Writing a Book
    26:55 - Making the Time to Write
    29:53 - Planner or Plunger?
    32:36 - Working with a Publisher
    35:49 - The Hard Part that No One Talks About
    38:32 - Where to Find More on Job Moves

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    41 Min.
  • The Resiliency of Remedial Education
    Jan 7 2025

    More than a decade ago, a wave of research pointing to the inefficacy of remedial education was followed by a massive investment in rethinking how we prepare students who need extra support to access college. So why, after all that, does remedial ed still play such a big role on college campuses today? To help us tackle that question, we’re joined by Anne Kim, FutureEd Senior Fellow and author of a recent report on the remedial education reform movement. She discusses the history of remedial education in America and what it will take to move reform forward. Then, Jeff fields some provocative questions from Michael about who should go to college and how we can align incentives so no one profits off of unprepared students. This episode is made with support from the Gates Foundation.

    Links We Share

    Incomplete: The Unfinished Revolution in College Remedial Education by Anne Kim, FutureEd

    Student Success 2.0, Future U.

    The New Student Ready College, Future U

    Chapters

    0:00 - Intro
    02:49 - Remedial Education in Context
    07:26 - Calls for Change
    11:29 - A Wave of Reform
    14:53 - Progress Stalls
    16:59 - Recommendations for a Reform Rebound
    19:33 - Responding to Criticisms of Remedial Ed
    24:58 - A New System with More Options
    31:00 - Correcting a Broken Business Model

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    37 Min.